Category: Let's talk
The following should do much to explain why I find Heather to be one of those special people that we run into only once or twice, maybe three times in a lifetime.
When we actually talk, which is sadly not often enough, we are able to have conversations that last for hours and hours on many and varied topics. Although many of our views differ, Heather is someone I can respect as a person and as a woman because her boundaries are clear and she knows what she wants. She respects herself enough to make her opinions known without caring what the consequences are. Personally, I highly respect someone who can put her thoughts down as intelligently as Heather does on a regular basis. She's willing to take the heat for people and stand up for the dignity of the individual. This is endearing and a quality that I highly revere. Heather, please continue to be yourself and to be the strong woman we all know and love.
Eddie Salcido
I agree. This is the kind of stuff people should say about others more often on here.
Dang a user on another board made her out to be a horrible person! I'm sorry I posted on that board!
okay, so she may have well thought out views on things, and she may be all the first poster said, but like I said on the other board, how would you like it, if the only! and I mean only pqn or message you ever got from her was that wich I put up, and the only thing you see on other topics is her slamming you, and not even taking the time to talk to you, or get to kno you? That, in my appinion doesn't make her any better than all the other gosipers in this place. If she was a real woman, she would ask before slamming someone for nothing but what she reads, or she would have asked me about what was behind that pqn. Not that it was any of her business anyway.
This Heather has a grand case of split personality.
I'm the same happy friendly guy most days of the week,
and people here haven't been as hospitable as I'd hoped.
Jesus I'd hate to be stuck in a in a pub with them,in a blizzard.
Stevie.
agree with the last poster, to be honest.
I agree with you Liz! No one puts my friends down! Chris told me what she said about me! I added her to Msn to see if she'd be woman to talk to me about it, not my bf! I take my first statement back, I think the poster of this board is a friend of Heather's.
I think he is as well, Hope.
Ok people. I have known heather since I was eight.
I have found points in both people's board topics to be true. Yes heather is extremely inteligent.
Yes she can talk for hours on end. It is yet to be determined if this is always a good thing.
She has clear ideas, but they change.
She has went to sex is yucky to I am looking for men I need men and I need them now.
She is tallented, but she uses her tallent to make other people feel less of a person.
She is a friend that sticks around, but you have to meet her conditions or be under her control.
She's loud, doesn't like always hearing other peoples oppinions.
She can be nice and make a friend want to cry, or she can just disappear for weeks at a time and make someone what to cry.
She can sometimes listen to someone's whole story and give constructive advice.
Other times she can poll what she did to liz. She can become a sheep herself, and hurt someone beyond belief.
These are things I know about Heather. I don't know whether that can indear someone or not. Take of it what you will. I know she's dedicated to the man she is with at the current time. She is also very selective.
She can be sweet she can be bruttle. If her and her mother hate me for this post like the other so be it.
If she is so dedicated to her man that she's with now, why care what her ex is doing? isn't he an ex for a reason?
She cares because we are still very good friends and I still care about her as well. Just because a relationship doesn't work, that's no reason why you can't be friends. Although a lot of people don't understand that. Not every breakup is a screaming match full of accusations etc. And I don't care about a girl just because she's my girlfriend. that is shallow and in mature. I'll wait for her to write the rest but i thought i'd throw my two cents in.
Lol, another topic just for Heather? She should be feeling pretty special right about now. Or ... not. I don't know her, and I don't know anything about her life or the lives of most of the people she's friends with, but that hasn't stopped anyone else posting to these topics, so.
All I have to say is that, although she does come across as being slightly condescending in some of her posts (something which may very well be unintentional), and although she does have very strong opinions and never hesitates to make them known, at least she's able to express herself in an intelligent and articulate way and doesn't change her mind based on what other people are saying. It's been said that she goes from one extreme view to another rather quickly, and while again, I don't know her or anything about her life, I haven't seen any examples of this and it seems to me that her differing views on sex might be the product of her growing and changing? It happens. That said, I'm not much of a fan of speculating about peoples' personal lives when I know nothing about them and they have nothing to do with me. And it's not that she's got a split personality, it's that two completely different people have made two completely different posts about her and portrayed her in two completely different lights. Of course she's going to seem different in this post than in the other.
To Post 2. GuitarGod1, perhaps we should have two new boards, the affirmation board and the bash board. Pick a zoner you feel strongly about one way or the other, pick the board that best describes your feelings about them and create a topic. Then it won't be personal, just about every zoner will have a topic about them on each of the two boards with many conflicting posts on each. That way all of the people who hate zoner A can post only to and look only at the bash board and all of those who love zoner A can post only to and look only at the affirmation board. It'll never happen, but it would certainly be an interesting indevour. To post 3. All righty then, Selena Fan, so fickle? One minute I'm the wicked witch of the West the next you're appoligizing? Honey, if you want to hate me, then go ahead and hate me, but for God's sake make up your mind. Don't be a sheep, following everyone else's opinions. Make up your own mind. If you really don't like me then say so, if you think I'm all right then say so, but which ever you do, don't destroy your credibility by posting that I'm awful then you're sorry that you posted that. To post 4. Queen Lioness Liz, first of all if all you saw on the boards was me bashing you then it is obvious that you never looked at any of the many many board topics that I have created or posted to or you would have seen me giving opeions on everything from food to books to music to relationships to dog training to independent living to parenting and children. Perhaps you only look at boards which involve you? No, I'll give you more credit than that. Perhaps you have little or no interest in art, music, literature, cooking, kids, animals, daily living or parenting. As for it not being my business, Cam is my friend, one of my best friends and I love him very miuch, so it is my business. When someone is either hurting him, acting as an enabler for one of his vices or playing off one of his weaknesses or tendencies I feel the need to protect him from that. As for me not knowing what was behind the PQN I sent you, I knew quite enough. I had the story strait from the horses mouth as it were. It certainly was not some random vendeta spauned by board postings alone. That would make me no better than all of the other sheep on the zone who believe everything that is posted. Your board and zone history coupled with the first hand information was enough for me to tell you to stay away from my friend. When I judged you honey I had only to look at the number of guys you were in relationships with in the past year, I think you are on what? your third or fourth zone relationship? I remember three for sure, Luther, Sudsy, and now Flying Phoenix, now I also remember a stevio, I think, now if so, is that just another name for Sudsy, or is that someone else? God, it is a testament to your varied dating career that I can't keep them all strait. Then there is the wanting to be FWB with both Cams either at once or one right after the other. I've had many interests, but no friends with benifits and only one real relationship thus far. However, as Candice may feel the need to trot out the list of all of the guys I've ever been interested in sence the age of twelve, I'll cut you some slack. After all, the important thing is that you are now safely with someone and not a threat to Cam. As long as it stays that way I'm not going to bother you, or even pick on you for sport. How's that? To post 5. Speedie, I certainly do not have split personalities, although somedays it might be fun, me thinks. lol Everyone is different when viewed through a different lense. Talk to me sometime, you may think I'm great, you may think I'm awful, but you will not think that I have MPD, Multiple Personality Disorder. To post 6.Chelsliscious, I really can't say much to you, as you did one of the things that makes it on to my pet peaves list. Mainly, posting to a topic and saying nothing, aside from "I agree with post number such and such." However, I really like your little tagline after your user name so I'll give you coodos on that. Oddly enough it very well expresses my current situation regarding this board topic.
and no comments to me, and How can you compair liz to how confused I was lasst summer? You know my past. Are you going to judge her what you see on here? I mean you don't know what happens behind closed doors of her home. You knew about me, and maybe liz is looking for the attentions of a man, and can't decide heather, but this as you asy is the zone. How much is real? How much does she know for sure? She's getting her feet wet, and maybe she'll find someone like I did scott, and be happy. Don't mind my typing im a bit tipsy. Respond or not, but if you judge her You judge me, and you knew why I hid, and I'd say that'd be showing how much of a hipocrit you are heather. Please prove me wrong and let me see the girl who doesn't look at only one side. Other wise I'll have found you to todally changed and not wknow the girl I once knew.
My response is only to say that enough is enough people. If you have personal issues with one another, take it off the boards for fuck's sake! While it does make for entertaining reading, aren't you embarrassed to do this in a public forum? Yes, I commented on the other topic, but most of what I said was not a personal attack, but one based on what I've read in that topic.
I've got one thing to ask. Who's Stevio? The only Stevio I kno, is someone I know's bf, and there more than 5 years my junior.
i was thinking the same thing, and who the fuck would date luther, wow some girls on here are wacked. stevio is 15 or 16 btw, so heather, I hope you mean someone else lol.
if she means that Stevio, then I hope she's joking! there's no fucking way! I'd even be interested in him at all! for one, he is 15, second, his gf is my friend, and lastly, I aint no home recker!
Liz Heather nailed me tonight! Heather I don't hate you! Like I said in response to one of your many questions I don't know you! You seem like a bi polar person! My sister and cousin are both bi polar. I know when to leave them alone! They can be nice anc nasty like you were to me! Why pick on Liz! I know women who have had many boyfriends! Why do you care that Chris is my first boyfriend? Why do you care if I know how to take care of my self and Daisy. Which I do a good job at both! When I got upset after reading your pqns it was Chris who calmed me down! He said I shouldn't read what you say! I'm smart and I shouldn't let a person who doesn't know me determine what I'm worth! The only one who I have anything to prove anything to is God!
You know what, you're right, God won't care that you are thirty-two and have your first boyfriend. God won't care that you change your opinion to go with that of the crowd, as long as your intentions are good. God won't care if you along with many other blind people within the blind community make it harder for those in the blind community who are abreast of or ahead of the curve. I can assure you I am not bipolar. I simply speak with someone honestly, not holding back. It shouldn't have upset you the questions I asked last night. Those which you did answer. As for the ones you answered regarding Daisy, if those are true then you get full props there, as they are due, but as you neglected to finish answering my questions I can't speak to the rest of it. You had me in your corner regarding your dog care and most of your home care responses, then you disappeared. I'm giving you the benifit of the doubt. You are thirty-two, living with assistance from your mother and have never had a boy friend before, and also have not completed university. I would add to the list that you don't have a job, but as you didn't answer that I can't put it down in favor of you or as evidence against you, because I don't know either way. But, I thought, "Hell, there might be extenuating circomstances, I'll just ask her, give her a chance to explain, perhaps there is some good and valid reason for this." So, I spoke with you, asked you some questions, got a few answers then you disappeared. I was never really nice to you, I was fare to you, before your board posts started driving me crazy, then maybe not so nice, but I never claimed to be, nor was I ever really nice to you. Perhaps that is the problem, you can't judge when someone is really being nice to you. And Selena, it is not the number of boyfriends that Liz has had, but rather the quick succession of those boyfriends that bothers and worries me. I don't especially care that Chriss is your first boyfriend or that you can take care of your dog, or a number of other things, I simply asked out of curiosity how Chriss was coping with and felt about having a girlfriend with those circomstances. It was interesting to me on a socio/cultural level your relationship. I sent him a quick note one night and instead of defending you with concreat rebuttles he kept insisting that it didn't matter and that all of those questions could be stamped out by the fact that you were a Christian. I found that mystifying, as I can understand why someone would have a friend based on their goodness as a person, their sweetness, their beliefs, but not why someone would date or be attracted to someone like that. Oh, and I don't presume to judge your worth, neither I or anyone else has the right or qualifications to do that, i was simply judging your skill level and abilities of expression as demonstrated by your board posts. Oh, and perhaps you could go crying, wining, ranting or whatever it is you prefer to do, to your friend Liz in private instead of doing so on a public board? I hear where you're coming from, but it's just way too much like, "Liz, Heather's a meany, what do I do?"
Okay, see this is the problem I have with you, passionate and natural artist. You were woman enough to ask Hope questians and at least talk to her, but yet you felt the need to atack me with out asking questians of me! first. I don't care what guitargod Cam said to you, but you could have come and asked for my side of the story first. someone on here said that you are an enteligent thinker, but just going after someone like you did to me, doesn't proove that. As for my history with men, go read the other board on you, cause you'll see I only had two so called boyfriends before my one I have now.
Shakes head. this is all a bunch of rambling. why do you care how Hope is in real life? Some of the things she does may sound off the wall, but, who are you to go prying answers to questions, you yourself want to know? I can understand people talking about liz's so called love life. only because, if you read very many boards, you'll see her name involved somewhere. This isn't an attack on anyone! by no means. Heather, I don't know you, but you digging info on people to post to the boards, doesn't make you sound anymore mature or intellegent than those your saying are living off mommy!
Thank you Shae! Heather I think you're trying to insult me! First of all my dad died, so that's why I'm not in college! But you seem to be a cruel person! So that doesn't matter to you! Second of all Liz is my friend, no I don't go crying to her and ask her what to do! Chris is right! None of that stuff matters! At least I'm a Christian! Yes I know when someone is being nice and when they're a back stabber! You have you own little click like most people on here! I didn't answer you caus I'm shy! Is that a probblem! You only speak to people who measure up to your standards! Yes I will go back to college in the future! Yes I'm a straight a student! So what's the probblem you have with me? To attack me in the way you did?
First of all I am not attacking anyone. But, heather all the stuff that you said about hope was totally not cool at all. It seems as if the person is not like you at all that you don't give a darn about them or you judge them no matter if it may hurt them or not learn some respect for once in your life!
Hate to break it to you sweety, but based on what I've sceen on this site your not ahead of the curve Heather, you appear to be far to intelectual to make it in the corporate world.
Thank you Chris but this is how Heather gets her kicks. She likes to put people down! She's just projecting her feelings on to me! Caus she must not be able to take care of her self or her pets! My Aunt Anne is a shrink! So I know all about people like Heather!
Hmmm, what does it say about the Zone when even a topic which was originally created to compliment someone ends up as a bash fest?
I wonder how willing to spout their views everyone would be if we were in a room all sitting together attempting to be mature adults? Needless to say I think that there would be a few punches thrown, and cat fights braking out. Heather, as inteligent as you are, you are feeding the fire, that isn't smart.
I took a break from this topic for a while! To the last posters; no I wouldn't punch any one out! But I could name those who might do such a thing lol! I think you're right about Heather. That wasn't smart of her at all!Puggle
yeah I can see that right now.
In the blue corner...
Ok, maybe not, but still come on people, why does everyone have to bash everyone onthis site. Can't we all just play nice?
this is absolutely rediculous!!!!
It just proves that those who bash others have no life of there own.
Jared, why on god's green earth would you take the time to write a doctoral thesis on someone you've never met?
Frankly, I wish this board, and others regarding this topic would be locked.
This is a proposterous waste of time!!!!!!!
It is my oppinion that those who continue to bash others have absolutely to much time on there hands!!!
Please, allow me to say I've been guilty of some of these activities,and I'm ashamed of this aspect but to go so far as to spend time personally attacking a person on the sight is disgusting at best!!!!!
cordially
To the last 2 posters. No one has anything better to do.
to tear drop, have you ever heard of freedom of speech? that's what this is. if you don't like it, don't let it bother you. simple as that.
To poster 31, why lock a topic? In extreme cases I understand the choice of an admin or cl locking a topic. However, in this case you revived this board to rant then to ask that it be locked. My question to you is why did you even post? At one point you were the last person to post to this board. Doing that revived the board which might have fallen off the topics with new posts. in other words you brought this back to the four front of everyone's minds. There are other ways of a topic ending besides locking it. One way is just to ignore the topic or read it without posting to it.
Nem shakes head, I'll just never understand.
Freedom of speatch is good but i think people forget the words respect. I think both can work at the same time. I wouldn't say that people should agree with each other all the time because this would be boring but We can express our disagreement to something but in a sivalise way. This is my oppinion. And this topick was created to be positive. There is another negative one so i don't understand why people don't use that.
Actually, reading this and similar topics here reminds me a lot of Sartre's "No Exit".
I read that...and I can't say you're wrong about that, only it's "No Exit" on a fucking, massive, scale. Keep in mind I don't often talk to heather, but here's what I see from afar.
Or NYM you can just stop posting to a topic, that's what I do. When and if a topic bores me. Nicos respect on the Zone it isn't going to happen.